{"id":243,"date":"2010-03-29T13:58:01","date_gmt":"2010-03-29T17:58:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianpiatt.org\/?p=243"},"modified":"2010-03-29T13:58:01","modified_gmt":"2010-03-29T17:58:01","slug":"can-protestants-be-too-catholic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/christianpiatt.org\/?p=243","title":{"rendered":"Can Protestants be &#8220;too Catholic?&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"snap_preview\">I posted a comment on my <a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/home.php?#%21\/christianpiatt?ref=profile\">Facebook Page<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/christianpiatt\">Twitter Page<\/a> recently about how it seems ironic to me that so many churches who focus on atonement theology (the idea that Jesus died for your sins as central to what they believe) seems to jump right past Holy Week and on to Easter.<\/p>\n<p>It seems to me that someone who preaches about and studies the death and suffering of Christ so much the rest of the year would have a field day emphasizing this central tenet of their beliefs on Maundy Thursday and Good Friday. But most of the churches in town that I know focus on this kind of image of Jesus have had slogans like \u0091Christ is Risen!\u0094 on their signs for a couple of weeks already.<\/p>\n<p>But can we really celebrate the resurrection, whatever meaning that takes on for your and your church, if we skip over the crucifixion? Moreover, aren\u0092t we missing something if we don\u0092t participate in the Passover Seder meal on the Thursday before Easter? Yes, this is traditionally a Jewish ritual, but it is, after all the meal that took place at the Last Supper.<\/p>\n<p>(Side note: I know this is shocking stuff for some, but Jesus wasn\u0092t a Christian; he was a Jew.)<\/p>\n<p>Some of the responses I got to this comment were more lighthearted, pointing out that those who emphasize death and suffering so much year-round may see Easter as a time to take a little break, albeit maybe poorly timed. But Liesl, another friend of mine, pointed out that, in the church of her childhood, the reason Holy Week was not observed is because it \u0093is too Papist.\u0094<\/p>\n<p>Basically, what she\u0092s saying is that, since Protestants broke away from the Catholic Church thanks to Martin Luther (the root meaning of \u0093Protestant\u0094 is \u0093protest\u0094 against many teachings of the Catholic church at the time), it\u0092s in our theological DNA to reject all things Catholic. Since the Reformation, lost of us have defined ourselves more by what we\u0092re not like in the Catholic tradition than by what we are though. And frankly, I think we\u0092ve missed out on a lot of good things the Catholic church does really well.<\/p>\n<p>As for Disciples in particular (the denomination of my wife and me, who co-founded <a href=\"http:\/\/www.milagrocc.org\/\">Milagro Christian Church<\/a> together six years ago), we have a real opportunity to connect with people who have some historical connection with Catholicism, but who do not actively participate in that church tradition any more. For one, we observe communion every week, much like the Catholic church, but rather than placing the church in a position of arbiter over who is fit to receive it or not, most Disciples churches observe an \u0093Open Table,\u0094 which means that it\u0092s not up to us as leaders to determine your fitness to take communion. We offer it to all people; whether you choose to take it is between you and God.<\/p>\n<p>The fact that some of us also observe the liturgical calendar (observation of holy Week and following the Lectionary, among others) also appeals to a lot of people who are Catholic, and yet they find an openness in our lack of creeds or dogma that gets them past whatever alienated them from church in the past. As for Milagro, nearly half of our congregation is made up of these kinds of folks. so for us, the connection to Catholicism is not only valuable to enrich our sense of connectedness to deeper tradition; it\u0092s a part of who we are today, as a faith community.<\/p>\n<p>We do, however, have a couple of folks who respectfully decline to participate in thins like out Maundy Thursday, Passover Seder and Good Friday services namely because they feel \u0093too Catholic\u0094 or \u0093too not-Christian.\u0094 Here, we just agree to disagree, though I can\u0092t help but think they\u0092re missing out on a broader perspective on their faiths of origin.<\/p>\n<p>(Another side note: it\u0092s common practice here in Pueblo to ask folks, \u0091Are you Catholic or Christian?\u0094 is if the two are mutually exclusive. Weird.\u0094<\/p>\n<p>So I\u0092m curious what others think. Do you feel like we may have gone a little too far with the Reformation, losing out on things like images and theology of the Divine Feminine, Holy Week and the like? Or is it important to maintain a cleaner break, setting ourselves apart from the faiths of Judaism and Catholicism that we came from? For that matter, is there value in digging deeper, looking into even things like Gnosticism, Zoroastrianism and other Pagan beliefs that informed many sacred practices we still embrace today?<\/p>\n<p>Let me know what you think.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I posted a comment on my Facebook Page and Twitter Page recently about how it seems ironic to me that so many churches who focus on atonement theology (the idea that Jesus died for your sins as central to what they believe) seems to jump right past Holy Week and on to Easter. 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