{"id":98,"date":"2007-09-29T20:19:47","date_gmt":"2007-09-30T00:19:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianpiatt.org\/?p=98"},"modified":"2007-09-29T20:19:47","modified_gmt":"2007-09-30T00:19:47","slug":"a-response-to-my-recent-column-on-dawkins","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/christianpiatt.org\/?p=98","title":{"rendered":"A response to my recent column on Dawkins"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Quite often, I get letters regarding one point or another in my columns. Sometimes they are complimentary, while more often, they are not. Seldom, however, are they worth reprinting. I got a note today, however, that I thought was provocative enough to post here.\u00a0 Below is this gentleman&#8217;s note to me, followed by my response.<\/p>\n<p>More food for thought.\u00a0 CDP<\/p>\n<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 0.5in\"><font face=\"MS Sans Serif\" size=\"2\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'\">Dear Mr  Piatt,\u00a0 <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 0.5in\"><font face=\"MS Sans Serif\" size=\"2\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'\">I am moved to  respond to your recent column on Richard Dawkins primarily because of the last  two paragraphs equating faith-based fundamentalism with  rationalism.\u00a0\u00a0Coincidentally, Dawkins has an article answering his critics\u00a0in  the October\/November issue of Free Inquiry addressing\u00a0 this tendency on the part  of people of faith\u00a0to\u00a0believe that a dedication to reason is just another form  of fundamentalist faith.\u00a0 Here are the relevant  passages:<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 0.5in\"><font face=\"MS Sans Serif\" size=\"2\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'\">It is all too  easy to mistake passion, which can change its mind, for fundamentalism, which  never will. Fundamentalist Christians are passionately opposed to evolution, and  I am passionately in favor of it. Passion for passion, we are evenly matched.  And that, according to some, means we are equally fundamentalist. But, to borrow  an aphorism whose source I am unable to pin down, when two opposite points of  view are expressed with equal force, the truth does not necessarily lie midway  between them. It is possible for one side to be simply wrong. And that justifies  passion on the other side.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 0.5in\"><font face=\"MS Sans Serif\" size=\"2\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'\">Fundamentalists know what  they believe, and they know nothing will change their minds. This quotation from  a fundamentalist says it all &#8220;&#8230;if all the evidence in the universe turns  against creationism, I would be the first to admit it, but I would still be a  creationist because that is what the Word of God seems to indicate. Here I must  stand.&#8221; It is impossible to overstress the difference between such a passionate  commitment to biblical fundamentals and the true scientist&#8217;s equally passionate  commitment to evidence. The fundamentalist proclaims that all the evidence in  the universe would not change his mind. The true scientist, though, knows  exactly what it would take to change his mind: evidence. As J.B.S. Haldane said  when asked what evidence might contradict evolution, &#8220;Fossil rabbits in the  Precambrian.&#8221; Let me coin my own opposite version of the fundamentalist&#8217;s  manifesto. &#8220;If all the evidence in the universe turns in favor of creationism, I  would be the first to admit it, and I would immediatel change my mind. As things  stand , however, all available evidence (and there is a vast amount of it)  favors evolution.&#8221; It is for this reason, and this reason alone, that I argue  for evolution with a passion that matches the passion of those who argue against  it. My passion is based on evidence.\u00a0Theirs, flying in the face of evidence as  it does, is truly fundamentalist.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 0.5in\"><font face=\"MS Sans Serif\" size=\"2\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'\">This ends the  quotation. What follows are my own thoughts. <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 0.5in\"><font face=\"MS Sans Serif\" size=\"2\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'\">In the next  to the last paragraph of your column you imply that the rationalist has\u00a0some  responsibility of proving the nonexistence of God. Not so. The burden of proof  rests with the person making the assertion. It is not up to the rationalist to  prove the nonexistence of a figment of the faithful&#8217;s imagination. You also  imply that the rationalist cannot prove the nonexistence of God. Not so again.  The more clearly defined a deity becomes the easier it is to disprove his  existence. It is childishly easy to show that the God of the bible cannot  possibly exist.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 0.5in\"><font face=\"MS Sans Serif\" size=\"2\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'\">A final note.  I encourage you to pick up a copy of the Free Inquiry mentioned above. At the  end of the article quoted there is a passage from Dawkins&#8217; <em><em><font face=\"MS Sans Serif\"><span style=\"font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'\">Unweaving the  Rainbow\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/font><\/em><\/em>that is one of the most inspiring and uplifting  statements on the human condition you will ever see.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 0.5in\"><font face=\"MS Sans Serif\" size=\"2\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'\">Sincerely,\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0  D.T.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br \/>\n(My Reponse to him)<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"navy\" face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial\">Dear DT:<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"navy\" face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial\">Thanks for your  response. I think, perhaps, that you perceived a couple of the points made in my  article differently than I intended.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"navy\" face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial\">My comparison of  Dawkins to fundamentalists was, in my mind, regarding their seemingly shared  interest in eradicating the viewpoints of those other than those they themselves  hold. I don\u0092t begrudge Dawkins being a rationalist or an atheist. My concern  with him in the public forum is that he prefers to erect barriers to discourse  and draw lines, whereas Krauss is more content to use his own knowledge to help  enrich others\u0092 understanding.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"navy\" face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial\">One of my other  concerns about Dawkins\u0092 sentiments is that he holds little or no regard for  someone who maintains a view that is not based upon reason. I respect that he  holds to the process of reason as sufficient to explain all phenomena in the  universe, and that to do otherwise is feeble-minded. I would argue, however,  that reason, rather than being an inviolable, universal constant, actually is a  construct of human consciousness, as is faith. <\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"navy\" face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial\">Further, to suggest  that I claim Dawkins must prove the nonexistence of God would be off-base, I  think. What I claim is that he cannot (not that he must or should) prove the  nonexistence of God any more than someone can prove the existence of God.  Aristotle was far wiser than Dawkins, I believe, when he drew limits around the  capacity of reason. He claimed that there is no way to use reason to discuss or  lay claim to what existed \u0093before\u0094 the universe, as reason by its very nature is  bound by the properties of time, motion and matter. Now, Thomas Aquinas used  this as a springboard to fit faith into the gap left by Aristotle, which clearly  was not Aristotle\u0092s intent. However, he understood that reason had its own  limits, a concession which might serve Dawkins well.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"navy\" face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial\">Just a few thoughts  before my brain goes too soft for the day. Thanks again for your note, and  thanks for reading my column, even if it presents a point of view with which we  don\u0092t agree.\u00a0 Incidentally, I\u0092ll look for a copy of Free  Inquiry.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"navy\" face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial\">Thanks,<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"navy\" face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial\">Christian<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Quite often, I get letters regarding one point or another in my columns. Sometimes they are complimentary, while more often, they are not. Seldom, however, are they worth reprinting. I got a note today, however, that I thought was provocative enough to post here.\u00a0 Below is this gentleman&#8217;s note to me, followed by my response. 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